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Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: DEAD WRONG
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:15 PM
To: tony lavoie
Subject: RE: dead wrong
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:40 PM
Subject: dead wrong
Never have I written to someone so bent on distorting and destroying a Church.
Dear Mr. LaVoie:
CAROLINE, IT IS TYPICAL THAT YOU ATTACK MY GRAMMAR MISSING THE ENTIRE POINT. IN YOUR, NOT YOU ARE, BUT YOUR ARROGANCE YOU MISS SPELT MY NAME. AND I THINK I AM STILL RIGHT ON ALL COUNTS, THIS IS ONE FINE EXAMPLE OF A WASTE OF OUR TIME.
I take your message as threatening, and you are clearly a very disturbed person, who either has and believes hallucinations, or you are inventing hallucinations for Scientology's nasty purposes. How on earth does anyone distort a church?
YOUR QUESTION HERE CONFIRMS EVERYTHING SAID ABOUT SPs, GUILTY OF YOUR OWN ACCUSATION, AND UTTERLY BLIND TO THE REAL TRUTH. BUT OF COURSE, THERE IS NOTHING 'NASTY' ABOUT YOU? IS THERE. LIKE A TERRORIST OF AMERICA, YOU BET YOU THINK YOUR RIGHT!
I am simply telling the truth about the Scientology cult. If Scientology is really so false and dishonest that it is destroyed by truth, it is the fault of its inventor and its members like yourself who keep the falseness and dishonesty working.
DEAD WRONG AND DOUBLE DEAD WRONG. YOU SHOULD BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS, LIKE OTHERS OF YOUR TYPE; BIN LADEN.; HITLER...ETC.
But lets face it, your not doing anyone any favors, it is factually for your own good SP declares happen.
I notice that throughout your message you spell the contraction "you're" as "your." Do you do that to be insulting, as a putdown because I'm an SP and don't deserve proper grammar and respect? Or is that really indicative of your education level from having done Scientology so long?
I KNOW PERFECTLY WHAT MY POINT IS; CONFRONT IT.
You are totally wrong about SP declares being for the SPs' own good. That was the kind of reasoning the nazis used when they rounded up the Jews "for their own good." The "Suppressive Person" doctrine is a hateful concept with no valid basis, but based only in the sociopathy of its author L. Ron Hubbard, its enforcer David Miscavige, and their co-conspirators or dupes like yourself.
You were in the Sea Org. Are you still?
SEE, ARROGANCE BEYOND BELIEF; SO TYPICAL OF AN SP. NO. I WAS NEVER EVER IN THE SEA ORG. AND, ARE YOU SUGGESTING AN SP DECLARE IS WORSE THEN A BULLET TO YOUR HEAD? I'M PRETTY CERTAIN HAD SOMEONE SHOT HITLER OR A TERRORIST SPREADING LIES AND HATE; PREVENTING PLANE-BOMBS AND HUMAN-BOMBS. NO ONE WOULD REALLY CARE. WHO WOULD PROTEST? HU?
OR, LIKE YOURSELF, THE SP NEVER TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR HARM DONE. PSYCHIATRIST NEVER TAKES THE PILLS THEY DOLE OUT; BIN LADEN WILL NEVER STRAP A BOMB TO HIMSELF. THERE FORE, AND LIKE WISE, YOU WILL NEVER CONFRONT YOUR OWN TRUE EVIL.
For even an SP won't survive the future without Scientology Tech.
No, that's a stupid lie, disproven by the very fact that I'm here now still surviving in what is the future after you wrote that stupidity. And it's a lie that justifies the victimization of good people. Obviously you support victimizing people, and you use the SP doctrine to justify that victimization.
YOUR FUTURE IS SHORT SITED. AND, AGAIN, YOU HAVE ZERO CONFRONT ON YOUR OWN EVIL. THERE FORE, YOU CAN NOT SEE THE HARM YOU DO. WHAT IS SO WRONG WITH STUDY TECH? YOUR INTENTIONS PROVE YOU WANT TO DEPRIVE INNOCENT PEOPLE EVEN THIS BASIC TECH. RIGHT?
In fact, your real motive is your daughter
What do you mean by this? Clearly you are either somewhat illiterate, or you are pretending to be illiterate, in order to be threatening and carry out your attack. You have either written or you imply here that I don't want my own daughter to survive. That is sick, but typical, Scientology black propaganda.
THINK ABOUT THIS; IF YOU HAD YOUR DAUGHTER BACK (ASSUMING SHE WANTS TO BE ANY WHERE NEAR YOU) I COULD SEE YOU MUCH CLOSER TO; HOW DID YOU PUT IT..."be very happy to pursue other interests".
and perhaps your driven by your very own bitter state of affairs.
Again you demonstrate with your terrible grammar that you either mean to insult me, and threaten me with your appearance of unintelligence, or you are actually unintelligent, perhaps as a result of your Scientology experience. Perhaps you can explain what it is.
WHAT WHAT IS?! IT'S NOT MY GRAMMAR THAT IS TERRIBLE. IT'S YOU; YOU ARE INTELLECTUALLY DUMB (SO WAS HITLER AND MANY OTHER SPs). LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN'T SEE INTO THE FUTURE WORTH THE FUCK; NOR CAN YOU "READ BETWEEN THE LINES".
It is true that I was victimized by Scientology, defrauded out of more than $60,000 and 24 years of my life on false promises, and fair gamed when I spoke up about your cult's lies, abuses and noxious policies and practices.
And it is true that your cult's leaders made my daughter disconnect from me. But it is Scientology's state of affairs, and its malevolent doctrines, policies and practices, like the SP doctrine, Fair Game, Black PR and Disconnection, that drive me to tell the truth about these doctrines, policies and practices.
DID YOU SEE THE MOVIE 'FAHRENHEIT 9/11'? LIKE THE EFFORTS YOU MAKE, YOU WILL HAVE LITTLE EFFECT WHAT-SO-EVER ON SCIENTOLOGY. JUST AS THE MOVIE HAD LITTLE, OR NO EFFECT, ON BUSH'S RE-ELECTION. $60K AND 24 YEARS! THAT ISN'T THAT BAD. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A AFGHAN WOMEN UNDER THE TALIBAN? PERHAPS FAR WORSE!
Believe me, when Scientologists such as yourself wake up to how dishonest and criminal your cult is, and act to end these terrible doctrines, policies and practices in your organization, I will be very happy to pursue other interests.
GO GET YOUR LIFE BACK! IDIOT. QUIT CRYING, AND QUIT BLAMING EVERYONE BUT YOURSELF.
There are planets, more then one, even I can recall that are far, far worse then this one, in your next life you should be so happy and lucky to return to this one.
Your illiteracy, whether pretended for attack purposes, or real and not pretended at all, certainly makes understanding difficult. It is clear, nevertheless, that you are lying about recalling planets far, far worse than this one. Name them.
OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. LIKE THE REST OF YOUR OUT-REALITIES, THIS ONE ISN'T REAL TO YOU. TRY THEN, TO THINK OF THINGS WITH-IN THIS PLANET, IF YOU CAN: PERHAPS YOUR NEXT LIFE WON'T BE IN CANADA. BUT SOME MID-EAST REGION. A REGION , AS YOU KNOW PERFECTLY, SCIENTOLOGY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MADE BETTER, WITH GOOD OLD SCIENTOLOGY TECH.
Don't you think that your obvious fear of returning to some other far, far worse planet, which gives you reason to stay in a dishonest, sociopathic cult to your detriment, is frightfully paranoid?
DUH! SPs WERE DUMPED HERE. AND THEY CAN BE DUMPED OFF. YOU JUST DON'T KNOW YOUR FATE YET. BELIEVE ME, YOU WON'T BE BACK ON THIS EARTH. YOUR ON YOUR OWN, AND LIKE THE SEA ORG MOTTO "WE COME BACK". I AM NOT GOING ANY WHERE MYSELF. I AS REFFERING TO YOU. IDIOT.
But, you won't.
I won't what? Be lucky and return to this planet?
I hope it isn't hell for you.
That's a load. You obviously are postulating me onto your hallucinatory far, far worse planet if I don't stop stating the truth about Hubbard, Miscavige and Scientology.
THERE'S THAT GUILTY ATTACK AGAIN. YOU LIE, AND YOUR HALLUCINATING EVERYTHING TO FIT YOUR OWN REALITY. WE CAN ALL SEE THAT.
You are being very ignorant.
Well here's your opportunity to point out some facts I missed or got wrong. And your fear of a far, far worse planet in my future or your future is not a demonstration of my ignorance and your superior intelligence.
YOU REMIND ME OF SO MANY SHRINKS; A BOOK-SMART DEAD-SOUL.
You have this life to set yourself straight. It's still not too late.
TOO LATE. FACT.
I take it you mean this as a threat.
HA HA! YOUR SO SMART. AGAIN, THE GUILTY ATTACK; YOUR THE REAL THREAT. I BELIEVE SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT ACTIVE TERRORISTS AND ACTIVE SPs. (I see little difference between the two) WITH LITTLE MERCY.
If you don't see life as a game that's fine, but your loosing everything, and every hope.
Again, your grammar and your spelling show an abysmal lack of education and understanding. But believe me, everything is impossible to lose, and the source of hope is certainly neither Hubbard nor Scientology.
LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT. (NO LESS FOR 24 YEARS); YOUR A IGNORANT BOOK SWALLOWER, GIFTED WITH GREAT GRAMMAR AND INTELLECT. BUT NO MORE USEFULNESS THEN A PSYCHIATRIST. A PROUD SP.
And your dead wrong in your "solutions".
Are you just too lazy to type "you're" or "you are," or has Scientology kept you so suppressed that you've lost touch with the intellectual level at which wogs actually communicate? Or, is it simply that you really do hate SPs so much that you can't grant us even enough credence to communicate with proper grammar and spelling?
COMMUNICATION IS SENIOR TO GRAMMAR AND SPELLING. YOU NEED A BULLET! I AGREE WITH EVERY PL. THAT DEALS WITH SPs SUCH AS YOURSELF. LIKE I SAID IT IS FAR KINDER THEN WHAT YOU REALLY DESERVE. FAIR-GAME IS NOT POLICY SINCE 1968, YOU KNOW THAT! YOU SIMPLY CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COUNTER-ATTACK OR DEFENSE, AND "FAIR GAME". ITS A BIG DIFFERANCE. THIS IS YOUR WAR, AND YOURS ALONE. AND YOU DON'T HAVE A HOPE OF WINNING.
What "solutions" are you talking about?
YOUR NEXT MOVE...ANY MOVE YOU MAKE THAT CONCERNS SCIENTOLOGY. IDIOT. PLEASE DON'T TELL ME YOUR THAT DUMB!
Already, anyone can see what your doing wouldn't be much different toward Christ, had he pissed you off.
You're doing. Christ, of course, doesn't have a "Suppressive Person" doctrine. He isn't a pathological liar like Hubbard. He doesn't hate, vilify and Fair Game good people who tell the truth.
HE SURE DID! LIAR. HE TALK ABOUT JUDGMENT ALLOT. YOU ARE JUDGED. DECLARED. AND UGLY.
(And He did upset many, those like you, who can not follow anything.)
That's a suppressive generality. Do you have some reference for this insult? Surely you're not projecting onto me your own inability, whether pretended or not, to follow grammar and spelling rules. Or do you mean my refusal to follow Hubbard the sociopath, Miscavige the bully, or Scientology the criminal scam, which you follow so religiously?
CAROLINE, WHAT GOOD IS GRAMMAR IF YOUR HEAD IS UP YOUR ASS? I AGREE, DAVE IS A BULLY, BUT EVERYTHING, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, TAKES IMPROVEMENT. HENRY FORD WAS SHAMEFULLY ATTACKED, LOOKING BACK 100 YEARS THE MODEL T WAS JUST JUNK. BUT MOST EVERYONE COULD SEE THE GOOD IN IT. STUPID.
Good luck, and so long.
Try to come to your senses, because this Planet is a dream compared to where you might end up.
I take this as a threat. Perhaps you'll reread what you've written and be shocked enough by your hallucinations and threats and the level of miseducation Scientology has left you at, that you walk away.
Sorry, that IS the way it is.
Illusions will never be real no matter how real they are for you.
Some night look up to the stars, a bright clear night when you can see the billions of them, and tell yourself I'm wrong...totally wrong. You know I'm not.
I know you're either utterly deluded, or you're executing some sick Scientology operation or program. Either way, your hope lies not in Scientology where truth is suppressed and people who tell the truth are attacked as Suppressive Persons, but as a wog somewhere in the wog world where truth and telling it can be welcomed.
YOUR CREDIBILITY IS FUCKED.
It's not true Scientologist don't care. I care about you. There is just no sense wasting mine and your time if you insist on being as stupid as you are.
I really don't think that by your demonstration so far of your intelligence, knowledge and wisdom you are really qualified to pronounce me stupid. With all my human faults, I was at least given enough wisdom to break away from Scientology, and enough intelligence to penetrate and invalidate its terrible SP doctrine. I believe that you have within you what it would take for you to do the same.
ME AND ALMOST EVERYONE ELSE. STUPID.
So if you're not going to be wasting my time and yours, where does the caring come in?
YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THIS, I CARE...TO SEE YOU GONE FOR GOOD. AND YOUR DUMB ENOUGH TO HAVE READ THIS ALL. YOU SHOULD OF TAKEN SCIENTOLOGIST' ADVICE AND DIS-CONNECTED FROM IT. YEARS AGO. WHY DIDN'T YOU? OR DON'T YOU.I AM. HAVE BEEN FOR TEN YEARS. IT'S ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER ISN'T IT? WELL, ALLOT OF KIDS HATE WHO THEIR PARENTS BECOME AND CHOOSE TO BE. TOO BAD. YOUR TOO FAR GONE. HOPELESSLY GONE. BECAUSE OF YOUR WEB SITE AND CONTEMPT, WHAT AMENDS COULD YOU DO TO POSSABLY COUNT? NONE.
ARC IS REAL TO ME. AND YOU ARE A NUTCASE. THAT IS SOMETHING ANYONE CAN SEE. IDIOT.
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